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Saturday, May 31, 2014

Dr. Medrum Talks Discovery Channel Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives Pt.1

airing Sunday, June 1 at 9 PM ET/PT on the Discovery Channel
" Russia the term [Yeti] is used quite generically for the Russian Wild Man and that entity or entities may take on more than one identity, in my opinion." --Dr. Jeff Meldrum

Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives chronicles American explorer Mike Libecki as he investigates why nine college students hiked up the icy slopes of the Ural Mountains in the heart of Russia but never made it out alive. The students' bodies were found scattered across the campsite in three distinct groups, some partially naked and with strange injuries including crushed ribs, a fractured skull, and one hiker mutilated with her eyes gouged out and tongue removed.

Dr. Jeff Meldrum made himself available to talk with Bigfoot Lunch Club about the Discovery special. In part one of the interview we discuss the difference between the Himalayan Yeti and Russian Yeti. In the second half of the interview (posted tomorrow) we talk about the definition of progress in Bigfoot Research.

The volume in the audio above, but at least you can hear our interview with Dr. Meldrum's interview unedited in full. below is a quick transcript.

GE: First off I just want to say I’m a big fan of your Legend Meets Science, I think that’s a staple in every cryptozoology library and I also like your Sasquatch Field Guide that you have out, that’s one of the best things since sliced bread for bigfooters.

JM: Well good, I appreciate that too. 

GE: So I want to get a couple things defined regarding the difference between bigfoot and yeti. So these are, are these the same creatures adapted to different climates or are the differences more distinct?

JM: Well, one has to first clarify what you’re referring to when you use the term yeti, because in Asia for example, in Russia the term is used quite generically for the Russian Wild Man and that entity or entities may take on more than one identity, in my opinion. There’s very interesting evidence suggests that there’s a creature much more human like than what we, at least what I, attribute to the North American Sasquatch.  This creature is described as being man-sized but yet covered with hair often with differentiated head hair, frequently described as utilizing tools stone tools in fact not just opportunist brandishing sticks and such. And Even interacts with the locals in a much different way as more complex social structure larger groups of individuals, and sometimes trying to interact trying to trade, even to communicate with the local inhabitant who simply consider them to be sort of backwards people that live up in the mountain. Their foot prints from my perspectives are quite interesting in that they are much more human like, they have an arch, that they are very broad very splayed, a foot that suggest a much more robust skeleton not just someone whose gone without shoes but much more robust skeleton,  so in part of that basis of description and foot print characteristics I would suggest that this is a relict Neanderthal or an affiliated species maybe like the Denisovans.

GE: Wow, so this would be totally different than the yeti that Sanderson had looked for or what Thom Slick had funded during his expeditions. 

JM: Right, right so the yeti to us, to most Americans, if you use the term yeti that invokes the notion of something in the Himalayas and what evidence exists for a species in the Himalayas at least in the high valleys of the mountain passes where the footprints have historically been found by mountaineers and attributed by the sherpas to yeti. It appears to be a creature that is much more ape like, again about man sized heavy stocky but the best footprint evidence we have suggests a foot that has a divergent big toe in much more ape like fashion than a hominid or human like fashion. So now the picture again gets a little bit more complicated or interesting because when Josh Gates the host of Destination Truth went up into the Himalayas while they were scouting about at some of the lower elevations some of the forests or the foothill they had reportedly had an encounter, heard something splash through the creek and run out across a sandy gravel bar and left a string of footprints which he made several casts of one was a very complete foot print which he brought to the laboratory here and I had the chance to look at and I was able to  immediately able to walk over to one of my drawers and pull out a Sasquatch track that was almost identically to it.

GE: Wow

JM: One that came from the blue mountains up by Walla Walla Washington. So there is the possibility there is also in the foothills of the Himalayas and extending into some of the areas where this Neanderthal has been described, one of the hot spots if you will, has been the Caucasus Mountains spanning between the black and cascades season. It has been produced through the efforts of people like Mary Jane Coffman a number of very good and well documented examples of Neanderthal like footprints or sub human or I should say archaic human footprint.  But also in my recent trip to Russia which was quite interesting I linked up with an investigator by the name of Dimitry (???) one of the most interesting aspects of that trip we were following up on the report of a long line of tracks that had been witness by many people in the local village and these were 16” tracks that were again indistinguishable from Sasquatch tracks but quite different the little you know 9 to 11 inch very human like arched footprint that have been more attributed to the more Neanderthal-style Russian Wild Man.  So it’s not just, in fact I was happy to hear that you really liked the field guide I’m in the process of writing another field guide that addresses this very issue; the notion that there could be multiple relic hominoids species, some more man like the Russian Wild Man or some more ape like the North American Sasquatch but which has apparently the equivalence scattered across eastern and southern Asia.

GE: Yeah, that would be exciting to have because I think one of the things that non bigfooters find really compelling as you have noted before in your presentations, the earth was literally the Planet of the Apes for a little while. We had multiple bipedal creatures walking on the earth sharing different geographies and such. 

JM: Exactly, and that seems to have been the rule rather than the exception in the past where there were you know as many as six or seven multiple species of hominid or hominoid depending on which taxonomic level you’re looking at but things that have or close allies to the branch that ultimately gave rise to human modern human and you know that the idea that we’re the last hominid standing kinda flies in the face of that rule and one has to ask why would the present be an exception.

GE: Right

JM: You know, you can come up with arguments but quite literally those same arguments were used to argue for Homo erectus being the only hominid on the planet, when it existed. And yet suddenly we knew that there were still Homo habilis there were Australopithecus robustus and so forth living right alongside Homo erectus so it’s a really interesting kind of turn events I think the thing that really turned the corner that was the pivot point was the discovery of the Homo floresiensis the hobbit. This showed that there was a relic hominid perhaps a late australopithecine human if not an early very early homo like Homo habilis that persisted in the remote corners of SE Asia up until just perhaps a few hundred years ago if the local stories about for example the Ebu Gogo on the island of Flores where this hominid of these fossil remains were discovered existed and its fascinating so if it changed the conversation you know now there were bones to back up the legends

GE: Right

JM: Diminutive hominoid on this island that the natives were talking about in such a similar fashion as they do here in North America. You know? The history of the indigenous people are replete the histories replete with stories of wild men that inhabited the forest.

GE: I think that if media is any indication, there’s a general consensus that there’s something to bigfoot research or there’s definitely a large interest in it, is that the same in the academic world or is it the academic world catching up? 
JM: Yes, I think that their slowly catching up in that they sense that their as there develops a context for the idea for the notion that there might be such things out there in other words if there is a bio-geographical paleontological context for these things as relic hominoids and this is why I’ve been kind of pushing this theme because as my collages begin to acknowledge the things like the Hobbit are not the stuff of science fiction any longer but that they are really in main stream science and there’s a rational for why this is happening why this is occurring  I think their more open to the possibility that well gee how do you argue that we’re the last hominid standing in the face of so much evidence that points to multiple relic hominoids around the globe, 

You know and its funny you mentioned that Ivan Sanderson and I feel guilty too if I don’t give credit where credit is due but I’m finding myself going full circles back to his original thesis back in the early 60’s that where he identified at least four different types of he called them ABSN’s abominable snowmen but we have the sasquatch type, we have the Neanderthal type, we have the little he called the proto-pigmy but what we maybe would think of as relic Australopithecines very early homo and the ape like type in the Himalayas and so you know I don’t want to I’m not one to necessarily lump everything together nor am I one to spit into too many different entities as some have done in the recent past but I think that that’s  a really pretty good working model to begin with I find that there’s some differences, some of the evidence that he was willing to accept I would raise some questions about and limit maybe the distribution of some of those more as there relatedness to one another but never the less that fundamental that’s taken in its broad brush strokes of multiple hominid species on the planet today just as Sanderson had suggested 50 years ago half a century ago is really starting to take some root. 

GE: Well and that’s really interesting because your also one of the people that would suggest that there may not be multiple species of bigfoot in North America.

JM: Right, Right.

GE: And 

JM: Well I just don’t see the evidence for that there you know I’m always hesitant to place a lot of significance on one outlier antidote that seems to be at awe and you know that the idea that there are you know North American Apes in the sense that there has been described by for example by Loren Coleman you know if you look at his field guide I mean he has

GE: Right

JM: There’s what 6 or 8 different creatures living on the North American Content alone and you know I’ve gone back and reviewed the stuff in the Mark Halls thesis about true giants and can find just quite honestly can find nothing substantive in any of that, its always a missing specimen that you know that the museum no longer lays claim to or some newspaper article describing a giant skeleton that there’s no document no further documentation, no substantiation to, is always just  you know the stuff the of Americana legend and that has kept Barnum and Bailey and his ilk going for all this time I just can’t find anything to it or nor can I find evidence of a pithecine type of a primate in North America based on a scuff mark in the sand and an interpretation of an extremely grainy news print photograph of a foot print cast in Florida. There just isn't enough when you compare that kind of evidentiary basis to the massive body of data that is remarkably consistent despite the silly pronouncements of archival skeptic in the form of the foot prints for example and the remarkably consistent eye witness descriptions that where there is any credibility to their encounter to the witnesses themselves and to their interpretation to their experience or their collaboration to their experience through foot print evidence and such there’s just no comparison if there were that significant of a body of data to support any one of those other creatures then there would be a leg to stand on at the present I don’t think 

GE: Right and I think that’s why it’s significant that when you say that there might be something to Sandersons mulitiple species and then in North America maybe not.  So on Sunday June 1st Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives airs on the Discovery Channel, can you tell us a little bit about your involvement in that show is?

JM: Right, yeah well it was primarily from my spear of experience and expertise you know that the antidote or the incident described that did the basis for that title, which I had nothing to do with I’ll give a disclaimer right now, is an intriguing one and I was curious to discover that there is quite a cult of a following of this particular story and the various theories to what might have accounted for the outcome and you know the link to the Russian Yeti or Wild Man is a tenuous one at best but it is an intriguing one and you know it does raise this question of do these creatures pose any threat to modern humans when they venture out away from civilization into the wilderness you know there’s always the questions that’s raised about sasquatch and its behavior whether it is a threat whether it is antagonistic or predatory on people and a lot of discussion has been has ensued around  that  we have anecdotal evidence some of the classic stories like that Bauman incident shared with Teddy Roosevelt.

that's the end of Part 1. Stay tuned tomorrow for part two of the interview, when Dr. Jeff Meldrum discusses the two-hour special in more details and then discusses how we define progress in Bigfoot research. 

RUSSIAN YETI: THE KILLER LIVES is a 2-hour special airing Sunday, June 1 at 9 PM ET/PT on the Discovery Channel.

Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives to Debut on Discovery

Nine college students never made it back alive after a hike in Yeti territory. 
Below is the press release for the upcoming two-hour special that investigates why 9 college students never made it back. Perhaps it was a killer Yeti. Stay tuned Next week when we interview Dr. Jeff Meldrum regarding his involvement in the project. Also, check out the promotional video below.



American explorer Mike Libecki Investigates Mysterious Deaths of Nine Students and Uncovers Something Truly Horrifying

(Los Angeles, Calif.) – On February 2, 1959, nine college students hiked up the icy slopes of the Ural Mountains in the heart of Russia but never made it out alive.  Investigators have never been able to give a definitive answer behind who – or what – caused the bizarre crime scene.  Fifty-five years later, American explorer Mike Libecki reinvestigates the mystery – known as The Dyatlov Pass incident – but what he uncovers is truly horrifying.

RUSSIAN YETI: THE KILLER LIVES, a 2-hour special airing Sunday, June 1 at 9 PM ET/PT on the Discovery Channel, follows Mike as he traces the clues and gathers compelling evidence that suggests the students’ deaths could be the work of a creature thought only to exist in folklore.

Based on diary accounts, forensic evidence and files that have just recently been released, Mike pieces together the graphic stories in search of what really happened that evening.  According to the investigators at the time, the demise of the group was due to a "compelling natural force."  The students’ slashed tent was discovered first with most of their clothing and equipment still inside.  Next, the students’ bodies were found scattered across the campsite in three distinct groups, some partially naked and with strange injuries including crushed ribs, a fractured skull, and one hiker mutilated with her eyes gouged out and tongue removed.

The mysterious scene left more questions than answers.  Why was the tent slashed from the inside?  Why would the victims leave their clothing behind in subzero weather?  Could it have been a government top secret weapon that killed them?  Or an indigenous local tribe that lashed out for trespassing on their land?  But perhaps most strange of all, why did the Soviet government suppress the autopsy and other reports for 30 years?

Mike first heard about the Dyatlov Pass incident on a climbing expedition in 2011 and since then has become obsessed with the case.   “I’ve spent a lot of time alone in the mountains and have had my share of near-death experiences,” he said.  “I know if I went missing, I’d want my family to know what happened to me.”

Determined to find answers, Mike hires Russian translator Maria Klenokova to join him.  Together, they set out to one of the most remote and inhospitable places on Earth.  However, nothing prepared them for what they were about to discover.  Following the trail of evidence, Mike finds proof that the hikers were not alone – a photograph, taken by one of the hikers a day before they died that suggests that they encountered a Yeti.  But just how far will they go to find the answers?

Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Today in Bigfoot History | JAN 09 | Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science Debuts

Cover art for Discovery Channel documentary and companion book

2003. It was a Thursday night exactly ten years ago today when a documentary film, Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science, aired on the Discovery Channel. The program featured scientists from various disciplines analyzing the most compelling evidence. Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science was produced by Doug Hajicek with White Wolf Entertainment, the same people who brought us Monster Quest. It is narrated by the distinctive voice of Stacy Keach.

The documentary can be defined by the analyses of three pieces of Sasquatch footage and 17 categories of evidence.

The three pieces of footage were the Patterson/Gimlin film, the Freeman footage and the Memorial Day footage. The 17 different categories of evidence included: fossil evidence, new species discoveries, dermal ridges, the Sasquatch body, images, step frequency, biomechanics, forensic measurements, Patterson-Gimlin film, behavior parallels, vocalizations, visual misidentification, track morphology, kinesiology, soft tissue pathology, statistics, and DNA.

Also included in the documentary were six experts, described by the official webpage below:
In the documentary, scientists from various disciplines put the most compelling sasquatch evidence to the test. Collectively their conclusions are ground-breaking. There is now scientific proof for the existence of a giant primate species in North America -- a species fitting the descriptions of sasquatches (bigfoots). 

The nation's top primate anatomist, Dr. Daris Swindler of Washington State Univeristy examines the Skookum Cast, along with prominent primatologist Dr. Esteban Sarmiento of the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, and anthropologist Dr. Jeff Meldrum of Idaho State University, give their conclusions about the Skookum cast, and what it points to.

The nation's top bioacoustics analyst, Dr. Robert Benson at Texas A&M Corpus Christi, analyzes sound recordings of purported Sasquatch vocalizations with an advanced computerized system in his laboratory. He explains his conclusions about the recordings.

Primate fingerprint expert, Officer Jimmy Chilcutt, discusses the consistent and distinct dermal ridge patterns found in track casts from the northwest and southeastern United States. He states his conclusions about the level of proof provided the dermal ridge casts evidence.

DNA expert Dr. Craig Newton from BC Research in Canada attempts to extract DNA from hair samples and saliva taken from the Skookum Cast site. He explains the potential and problems with DNA analysis.

Dr. Russel Ciochon shows life-size models of Gigantopithecus, and describes their interactions with early man. Various other scientists fill in other parts of the puzzle.
Anthropologist Dr. Jeff Meldrum also wrote a companion book with the same title, "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science."

According to Wikipedia, the DVD version is slightly different from the broadcast including extra footage.

  • The full length of the Patterson footage in digital format, allowing you to zoom in on individual frames with unprecendented clarity
  • More of the Freeman footage
  • More of the Memorial Day footage
  • An FAQ on the Sasquatch mystery
  • A gallery of images related to Sasquatch evidence and research

Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Discovery Channel Filming Pilot For Skunk Ape Investigator

This sounds some-what unofficial and not completely confirmed. What we do know is Authentic Entertainment is filming in Florida , but producers aren't commenting.

Read the full article below from

David Shealy’s been trekking through the Everglades for 35 years looking for the skunk ape.

This week, he’ll have company.

A film crew from California-based Authentic Entertainment, the production company behind reality TV shows Ace of Cakes (Food Network) and Flipping Out (Bravo) is in Ochopee to begin filming a pilot reality show intended for Discovery Channel in the fall.

Shealy, curator of the Skunk Ape Research Headquarters, has appeared on other shows about the legendary skunk ape, a yeti-like creature adapted to the wilds of South Florida, including "Unsolved Mysteries" and "The Daily Show."

He calls the Discovery Channel pilot the biggest project he’s worked on.

An Authentic Entertainment associate in Burbank confirmed that a film crew is in Florida on the project but the producers in the field declined to comment on the making of the show.

Shealy said they’ll employ a helicopter to get aerial shots and tour the 10,000 Islands by boat. Advanced technology, which he declined to describe, will be used as well, he said.

“The producers really want to put together a successful show,” he said.

Shealy knows not everyone buys the tale of the skunk ape, a 7-foot tall biped covered in hair and emitting a foul odor. The website for his Trail Lakes Campground on U.S. 41 in the Big Cypress Preserve, hosts an ongoing poll asking visitors if they believe in the creature’s existence. More than 25 percent of the 2,500 respondents either believe it to be a hoax or are skeptical.

But a majority either believe in the idea or find it plausible.

He says new information is surfacing all the time. “I’m hot on the trail,” he said, adding the fresh evidence points to the presence of a skunk ape around Sunniland. “New doors are opening. I look forward to bringing this to a close real soon.”

He hopes the Discovery cameras are on hand when he does. “We’re going to break new ground here.”

Saturday just after noon, to mark the occasion of the television production and as a way to thank his camp ground and Skunk Ape Research Headquarters patrons, he is hosting a fan appreciation day at the campground. There will be live music, food, soft drinks, Shealy said. He said he’s promoting a family event so alcohol won’t be sold, but he has a couple of cases of Swamp Ale, a specialty beer made in Florida that he may give out as prizes.

Local radio host Joe Whitehead is to serve as the master of ceremonies.

In the 1990s, Shealy gained notoriety when he tried to sell the county on the idea of using tourist tax revenue to fund an expedition leading the media in search of the skunk ape. The theory was that if the media could show the skunk ape to be real, tourists would flock here hoping to get a glimpse.

The idea actually won initial approval from the Tourist Development Council before being shot down by an unamused board of county commissioners.

In the intervening years, the explosion of reality TV means that an enthusiastic pitchman -- “I consider myself the top researcher in the country, possibly the world, on the skunk ape,” Shealy says -- can on his own get the media to come to the swamp in search of an elusive and possibly illusory creature.

Even if the cameras don’t capture a skunk ape, they’re sure to capture the beauty of the Everglades, all without taxpayers having to spend a dime.

If it ends up on a major cable network, that’s a win for Collier County either way.


David "right place, right time" Shealy, claimed on July 8, 2000 to have filmed 3 minutes worth of skunk ape footage. Below is a mini documentary posted on youtube in 2008.

Friday, October 29, 2010

Bigfoot hunters were perhaps the most surprising group

Discovery Magazine has an article that tries to determine what makes "paranormalist" tick. Yes, according to them all Bigfooters are "paranormalist". Some are, but it may be inaccurate to blanket all Bigfooters with this notion.

Although they cover Ufologist, Ghost hunters and the rest below we reprinted the stuff about Bigfoot.

Believers range from free-spirited types to high-powered businessmen. Some were drifters; others were brain surgeons.

By Emily Sohn
Fri Oct 29, 2010 07:00 AM ET
(Discovery News) -- To understand what drives some people to truly believe, two sociologists visited psychic fairs, spent nights in haunted houses, trekked with Bigfoot hunters, sat in on support groups for people who had been abducted by aliens, and conducted two nationwide surveys....

...The numbers also showed that different types of paranormal entities appeal to different demographics. Women, for instance, are most likely to believe they live in haunted houses. College graduates are most likely to have out-of-body experiences. Unmarried white men are most likely to believe in UFOs.

Bigfoot hunters were perhaps the most surprising group, Bader said. They defied all stereotypes of paranormal pursuers who wear flowing clothes and commune with spirits.

Instead, they were very serious, extremely conventional and often highly professional. In fact, their beliefs contradicted their lifestyles so much that many of them were plagued by anxiety, which drove them even further to stick to their beliefs.

"Their friends and family consider them kooky," Bader said. "Everyone is saying they're nuts. So, they have a real aggressive style and seriousness of purpose. They want to prove everyone wrong."

For one hunter, the search began one day when he was out in the woods and, he swears, he saw Bigfoot cross his path.

"Imagine the stress that would put on your life," Bader said. "You consider yourself a normal, smart guy, and you think you just saw a giant monkey walk in front of you. Now, you have to fit that into your life."

CNN Psychoanalyzes Bigfooters

SRC: Discovery News

Saturday, April 17, 2010

LIFE Discovers Primates and Perhaps Insights to Bigfoot

The Planet Earth series was amazing, Blue Planet was spectacular, but Discovery Channel’s newest series, LIFE, is just plain unbelievable. LIFE is an 11-part Discovery Channel series In collaboration with BBC, exploring the animal kingdom. It took over 3,000 days to film, and captures animals hunting, breeding, evolving, and living. It is narrated by Oprah Winfrey, and will air perhaps the most exciting episode tomorrow night at 8PM.

The Episode, Primates, will focus how intelligence, adaptability and resourcefulness help primates beyond their physical means, and thrive in a variety of habitats.

Any lover of Bigfoot or Sasquatch is guaranteed to gain insight into this elusive beast by watching tomorrow night's episode.

Below is a promotional video on the entire series.

LIFE Primate Page
LIFE Home page

Friday, October 2, 2009

Discovering Ardi

In our two previous posts "Move over Lucy" and "A Planet Where Ape Evolved from Man?" we introduced you to Ardi

Discovery Channel has some fine previews of a special they will be premiering October 11th. Yhe show is titled Understanding Ardi.

Check out the entire website here

UNDERSTANDING ARDI, a one-hour special produced in collaboration with CBS News will air at 11 PM (ET/PT) immediately following DISCOVERING ARDI. The special is moderated by former CBS and CNN anchor Paula Zahn and includes research team members Dr. Tim White, Dr. Yohannes Haile-Selassie, Dr. Giday WoldeGabriel, Dr. Owen Lovejoy, and science journalist Ann Gibbons
The scientific investigation began in the Ethiopian desert 17 years ago, and now opens a new chapter on human evolution, revealing the first evolutionary steps our ancestors took after we diverged from a common ancestor we once shared with living chimpanzees. "Ardi's" centerpiece skeleton, the other hominids she lived with, and the rocks, soils, plants and animals that made up her world were analyzed in laboratories around the world, and the scientists have now published their findings in the prestigious journal Science.
"Ardi" is now the oldest skeleton from our (hominid) branch of the primate family tree. These Ethiopian discoveries reveal an early grade of human evolution in Africa that predated the famous Australopithecus nicknamed "Lucy." Ardipithecus was a woodland creature with a small brain, long arms, and short legs. The pelvis and feet show a primitive form of two-legged walking on the ground, but Ardipithecus was also a capable tree climber, with long fingers and big toes that allowed their feet to grasp like an ape's. The discoveries answer old questions about how hominids became bipedal.

Saturday, September 26, 2009

Skeptic gives Top 10 why Bigfoot does not exist.

Photo of Benjamin Radford has a slideshow provided by Benjamin Radford, managing editor of Skeptical Inquirer magazine. The slideshow is the top 10 reasons Bigfoot is bogus.

Below I have paraphrased the top ten reasons below. You can see the the slideshow here and read in detail each of top ten reasons Benjamin Radford believes Bigfoot is bogus.

1.) The Empty Fossil Record.
2.) Forget Fossils, Where Are the Bodies?
3.) The breeding population would be tens of thousands.
4.) Most “evidence” are circumstantial eyewitness reports.
5.) Most photos are ambiguous, and even more recognizable ones can be faked.
6.) There no rigorous, documented, peer-reviewed evidence for Bigfoot.
7.) Bird researchers, rigorous observers and exhaustive note takers, have never spotted Bigfoot.
8.) Since the Panda 100 years ago, most new species discovered are microorganisms and insects.
9.) Virtually all the evidence either comes down to being inconclusive or a hoax.
10.) Without a body there is no standard to compare evidence to.

While the Bigfoot Lunch Club would not go as far as saying Bigfoot is bogus, we agree these are all valid challenges we Bigfooters face. It is important that we recognize and embrace these challenges. As steel sharpens steel, we appreciate opposition.

Thank you Mr. Radford for keeping us on our toes, while we try to keep on the heels of Bigfoot.

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